Wednesday, November 11, 2015

FOR MY REDEEMER CHURCH FAMILY

Angela Greenig at Redeemer

Dear Redeemer Family:

Here are some things I want to share with you.

1. Yesterday afternoon I spent three hours praying for all of you who sent me prayer requests. What an honor and privilege it is to do this! I printed out all the requests and took them with me. I made several notes next to the requests as I was praying. I've decided to continue to pray over these all this week. I will be contacting some of you where I feel God gave me some specific things which will, hopefully, strengthen and encourage you.

2. THIS COMING SUNDAY MORNING AT REDEEMER my friend Bruce Borquist will preach. Bruce and his wife Ann are American Baptist missionaries (like Jeff and Annie Dieselberg are). Bruce is the one who invited me to speak in Brazil a year ago. I am so thankful for Bruce and Ann. They have a vast, powerful ministry to many countries of the world. We will be privileged to hear Bruce speak to us on "The Heart of a Missionary."

3. 6 SUNDAYS ON THE REAL JESUS: Beginning Nov. 22, and through all of December, we're taking a break from the book of Revelation and I'll be giving 6 sermons on everything I know about Jesus. My vision is: Redeemer is a Jesus-literate church!

4. CHILI LUNCHEON AND COOK-OFF. Sunday, Dec. 6, following worship.

5. Please look in our lobby for the Christmas Child Project and the Christmas Tree of Giving.

6. BUY A CHAIR OR TABLE FOR OUR NEW BUILDING ADDITION. There is a display of sample classroom furniture for the new addition in the narthex by the coat racks.   If you would like to donate a chair or table for a classroom, you can specify "Classroom furniture"  on your giving envelope, along with the amount. 
Chairs are $25 and tables are $62.

7. FOCUS ON MARRIAGES: Linda and I invite all marital couples to join us for three Sunday nights focusing on strengthening our marriages. January 17-24-31. 6-8 PM. We are looking at materials (and perhaps some very good dvds) that will help us. More information TBA.

8. INNER HEALING CLASS: I will be teaching an 8-week class on Inner Healing during the months of February and March. Topics will include: Our Need of Inner Healing; The Biblical Promise of Inner Healing; Overcoming Shame; Self-forgiveness; Healing of Damaged Emotions; Healing of Memories. Breaking into more freedom! More details and sign-up as we approach the beginning date. Sunday nights, 6-7:30 PM.

9. REDEEMER BASKETBALL LEAGUE. Sign up is Sat. morning, Dec. 5.

10. SUMMER GREEN LAKE CONFERENCE (looking way ahead): Robby Dawkins and Bob Hazlett. June 26- July 1. For details and registration go to the HSRM Home Page.

Plus our ongoing Royal rangers Ministry, Youth Ministry, and more...

And...  the Grand Opening of our new Children's Facility...  coming soon!

Blessings to you all this day.

We are a praying church,

PJ

Tuesday, November 10, 2015

Praying and the Maximus Contemplator

Flower, Dearborn Village

Twelfth-century writer Bernard of Clairvaux referred to David as the maximus contemplator (cf. "The Evangelical Resistance and Retrieval of Contemplation, by Tom Schwanda, in Journal of Spiritual Formation and Soul Care, Spring 2014, Vol. 7, No. 1, p. 70). David has a one-thing focus that is seen in Psalm 27:4:


One thing I ask from the LORD, this only do I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the LORD 
and to seek him in his temple.

Here's the Davidic one-thing focus again, in Ps. 63:1-5:



You, God, are my God,
    earnestly I seek you;
I thirst for you,
    my whole being longs for you,
in a dry and parched land
    where there is no water.
2 I have seen you in the sanctuary
    and beheld your power and your glory.
3 Because your love is better than life,
    my lips will glorify you.
4 I will praise you as long as I live,
    and in your name I will lift up my hands.
5 I will be fully satisfied as with the richest of foods;
    with singing lips my mouth will praise you.
Schwanda writes: "Both of these Davidic psalms communicate the intense longing and fulfilled delight of being in God's presence." (Ib.)

My understanding and experience of praying is that it happens in God's presence. 


Praying opens the door to the realized presence of God.

Monday, November 09, 2015

God of Love Walking Among Screwed-up Humanity

Michigan State University's Museum of Art
I am screwed up inside and need a great unscrewing. While I've experienced much inner healing that evidenced the fact outwardly, there's still more needed, within me. I am a screwed up person living in a land of screwed up people. Like the apostle Paul, I have not already attained pure Christlikeness, but I press on to make it my own.

Every week I see the neediness of humanity - 



  • adulterous men and women living in the fantasy land that "the children will be OK"; 
  • heroin addicts who think they can beat the beast with talons padlocked around their souls; 
  • control freaks bearing the terrible burden of always having to have things go their own way; 
  • hiding people doing deeds in the dark while self-righteously judging all who stumble in the light; 
  • materialist stuff-saturated beings who fail to see how the marketers of planned obsolescence and fabricated need dangle them on their hooks; 
  • war-starters who cannot exist without surrounding decadence and dystopia; 
  • perpetual victims whose failed lives survive by blaming others and refusing responsibility; 
  • all the bondaged, bandaged casualities among which I am and dwell.


Recognizing this Howard Thurman writes:


"I know that this world is messed up and confused. I know that much of society stretches out like a gaping sore that refuses to be healed. I know that life is often heartless, hard as pig iron. And yet, in the midst of all this I affirm my faith that God is love - whatever else He might be." (40 Day Journey With Howard Thurman, 40)



God is love, and those who abide in love abide in God, and God abides in them.
1 John 4:16

Pray for those whose lives lack the give and take of love, that somehow love would enter their lives. Pray for encounters with the Great God of Love who walks among us.


Pray for your own self.

Sunday, November 08, 2015

Stop Going to Church


If you are a Jesus-follower, then you are one of the "called-out" (ek-kaleo; ekklesia) people of God and his Kingdom. 

You are part of The Movement. 

You are the church.

If you "go to church" then you are not a Jesus-follower. Because J-followers don't "go" to some building called "the church"; they are "church." They are the "called-out ones." They are the ones who have been ek-kaleoed by God.

J-followers don't, therefore, "go" to church. They are the church, and the church meets regularly. For a J-follower saying "I go to church" is the logical equivalent of saying "I go to myself." That's odd. Since I am the church.

Meet with church. 

Don't forsake gathering as church. 

If you forsake church gatherings than you are abandoning your spiritual brothers and sisters. And you are forsaking your core identity as a follower of Jesus.

Remember, Jesus did not say "I will build individuals," but "I will build my church." 

Friday, November 06, 2015

Reflections on Chapter One of Philip Kitcher's Life After Faith: The Case for Secular Humanism


I just read the first chapter of Philip Kitcher's Life After Faith. Here are my initial thoughts about it.

I'll probably read Ch. 2 and respond sometime in the future.

Kitcher quotes are inserted between inverted commas.

“In my early teens, my faith began to slip, underwent a few bouts of renewal, and then disappeared for good.” (K66)

I’m just the opposite – in my early 20s my deism/practical atheism began to slip, and I found faith.

“The atheist movement today often seems blind to the apparently irreplaceable roles religion and religious community play in millions, if not billions, of lives. The central purpose of this book is to show how a thoroughly secular perspective can fulfill many of the important functions religion, at its best, has discharged.” (K94)

“Mere denial leaves human needs unaddressed: the fully secular life cries out for orientation.” (1)
Note: “orientation.” Does not this assume there is some destination, some goal to be gained? On a theism such does not exist, correct?

Will Kitcher try to point us in a direction, as opposed to Nietzsche's directionless, orbitless planet? 

“Secular humanism begins with doubt.”
Kitcher demands a reply to one matter: “The core of secularist doubt is skepticism about anything transcendent.” (6)
My skepticism is about the idea that all is “immanent.” Which means: physical?

It seems so. Kitcher writes:
“Believers may retreat from committing themselves to all-powerful creators with long white beards or to gleaming figures with magnificent wings or to the living physical presence of someone who was previously fully medically dead, but so long as they interpret their doctrines as recording episodes that were connected with something beyond the physical, organic, human world, secular humanists doubt the truth of what is claimed.” (p. 6)

OK – Kitcher is (it seems) a physicalist. I have philosophical and scientific problems with that. For example, “consciousness.”

What evidence is there for this skepticism about the transcendent?
-      “We find an astounding variety in religious doctrines.” OK. Therefore…? NOTE: Alvin Plantinga has thoroughly and rigorously responded to the claim that varieties of religious experience form a defeater for one view (Christian theism. See Plantinga, Knowledge and Christian Belief, Ch. 9.

“The religious convictions of many contemporary believers are formed in very much the same ways. Often the faithful are born into a religious tradition whose lore they absorb in early childhood and continue to accept throughout their lives; sometimes, when the surrounding society contains adherents of a different doctrine, acquaintance with a rival religion prompts conversion, and a shift of allegiance. In either case, however, religious believers rely on a tradition they take to have carefully preserved insights once vouchsafed to privileged witnesses in a remote past.” (pp. 7-8)

True. Therefore… reality does not contain transcendent entities or experiences?

And… watch out for the genetic fallacy here. For we can agree that there are a variety of religious experiences and convictions.

The common pattern is: “Religious believers rely on a tradition they take to have carefully preserved insights once vouchsafed to privileged witnesses in a remote past. Because that pattern is so prevalent in undergirding the religious beliefs of the present, it is very hard to declare that one of the traditions has a special status, or even that a manageable few have transmitted truth about the transcendent. The beliefs of each tradition stand on much the same footing: complete symmetry prevails.

How can a devout person, deeply convinced of some specific, substantive doctrine— the claim that the world is the creation of a single personal deity, say— come to terms with this predicament? To face it clearly is to recognize that if, by some accident of early childhood, he had been transported to some distant culture, brought up among aboriginal Australians, for example, he would now affirm a radically different set of doctrines, perhaps about the reverberations of the Dreamtime in the present, and would do so with the same deep conviction and as a result of the same types of processes that characterize his actual beliefs." (8)

          True…  but so what? Again – I smell the genetic fallacy.

Since Kitcher mentions the sensus divinitatis, and says an Aborigine might have this just as a Christian theist might, we would do well to recall Alvin Plantinga’s analysis and objections here. (Probably Kitcher is responding to Plantinga. if he is, he is failing to address Plantinga's detailed reasoning.)

Kitcher is saying – There is massive disagreement among the world’s religious. Therefore, he is skeptical of the transcendent.

“Science” – “Disagreement in doctrine is mirrored in disagreement about cogent modes of religious argument. Finally, a closer look at the motivating analogy shows it to be broken-backed. In the scientific case, the methods used to generate and defend the conclusions can be tested independently for their reliability, and the conclusions themselves can be put to work in a host of successful predictions and interventions. Molecular geneticists can do remarkable things on an impressive scale, producing organisms to order and using them to manufacture a host of medically valuable substances (for example, growth hormones, clotting factors, or insulin). Nothing like that is apparent in even the longest-surviving traditions of rational religion. Instead arguments about the transcendent, including those directed at establishing the existence of a deity, are presented, rebutted, refined, and questioned again, in a process that makes no progress, in which no question is ever settled, in which opinion never converges and disagreement never abates. No basis can be found for supposing that this process is well suited to lead to transcendent truth.” (10)

Note: “remarkable” and “impressive” are not within the realm of science. So Kitcher transcends science in his explanation.

Science, qua science, says nothing about value. If Kitcher is to be consistent he ought to remove all value judgments, and perhaps all reasoning (logic) since the laws of logic are not, precisely, physical things. (Kitcher is going to tackle "value" is Ch. 2. Presumably he will show how matter produces "value." Will he try the failing route of Sam Harris here?)

Kitcher is, foundationally, a physicalist. So one should expect nothing less than an attempt at physicalist reasoning.

See this – “Why should anyone, including the religious believer, suppose himself to have an ability to undergo processes that yield specific doctrines about the transcendent? With respect to faculties like perception and memory, physics, physiology, and psychology have begun to provide the rudiments of accounts of our capacities to discern particular types of facts: we now have glimmerings of understanding as to how people have causal access to specific features of the world. For the putative source of transcendent truth there is nothing similar…” (pp. 10-11)

Isn’t this circular? “Our ancestors have been able to base their trust on common-sense discoveries. They could check that, for the most part, the deliverances of the senses cohere, that the properties discerned by vision are reconfirmed by touch, that the judgments of different people agree and that a mass of perceptual judgments and memories fit together in a harmonious whole.” (p. 11)

But see Wm P Alston, and belief that our senses give us accurate information about the external world as properly basic; therefore, non-scientific (non-evidentialist).

We trust in our senses.
We have no evidential argument for this.

This is because to verify the veridicality of our 5 senses we would have to assume the veridicality of our 5 senses.

Kitcher has a highly exalted in excelsis view of science when he writes: “Although the appeal to basic religious knowledge avoids the outright rebuke of definite refutation— for, unlike nature, the transcendent never delivers a resounding “No” to our assertions— it is undermined by the vast extent of radical disagreement, and by inability to explain in any noncircular way how the supposedly benighted might deploy their supposed faculties better than they actually manage.”

          I'm just not sure the transcendent (God) fails to deliver a resounding "No" to our assertions.

I am also not sure that nature is able to deliver a resounding “Yes” to our assertions (the history of science is the history of error). BTW – “nature” doesn’t give either a resounding “Yes” or a resounding “No” to anything. All facts are theory-laden (all “facts” are already interpreted things).

“Religious experiences occur in all cultures…” Might this be an argument for the transcendent, even if such experiences are described differently? (See Rom. 1 and 2)

“The [religious] conclusions often taken to be grounded in religious experience are thoroughly soaked in the brew of doctrines prevalent in the surrounding society and typically passed on in early enculturation— an important fact neglected by individualistically oriented religious (usually Christian) epistemologists in their attempts to validate “basic religious knowledge.”

Might not this also be said of scientific conclusions? On a diachronic analysis?

‘I have argued that not all of the full array of specific doctrines about the transcendent can be accepted as true— indeed, the overwhelming majority of them must be regarded as thoroughly false. Nevertheless, the processes through which those doctrines have come to be adopted are all of the same general type, providing no basis for distinguishing the wheat from the chaff. Under these circumstances, we should be skeptical about all of them.” (p. 13)

Wow – Kitcher writes – “The available evidence amply supports the hypothesis that religious experiences are more likely to happen to people who are psychologically disturbed or who are under the influence of substances usually viewed as interfering with clear and reliable perception.”
This is amazing. (Is he following Wayne Proudfoot here, whom he mentions in the Preface?)
If we are going to use a psychology of religious experience as a premise leading to skepticism of the transcendent, then I think we can use NYU psychologist Paul Vitz’s psychology of atheism to explain Kitcher’s physicalism (absence of the transcendent). And just what would we conclude from all of this?

Kitcher argues (p. 15):
1.   Most specific religious doctrines must be false.
2.   They all emerge from the same generic style of historical development.
3.   It follows that generating belief in that way is not reliable.
Is P1 true? I think so. But note overlap between religious teachings; e.g., the “golden rule.” And the idea of transcendent reality.
Is P2 true? Kitcher has not, for me, done enough to support this claim. In fact, from my studies of the history of religions, it strikes me as too simplistic. Kitcher is not a history of religions scholar. So i am skeptical of his claim.

Kitcher declares: “Thoughtful religious people should have been ready to concede… [and] should have insisted that religious doctrines are held on the basis of faith, and, if it is apt to see them also as knowledge, then the knowledge is of a distinctive sort.”
-      See Plantinga’s excellent chapter on faith as knowledge in Knowledge and Christian Belief.
-      See the physicalist’s non-evidential warranted belief in:
o   The veridicality of our senses
o   The laws of logic
-      See the physicalist’s blind faith in nonscientific value-laden language.

Kitcher writes: “Faith is belief that outruns the evidence available to the believer. According to some religious people, even if religious doctrines are held without compelling evidence, such belief is legitimate.” (p. 16)
          “Without compelling evidence.”
Amazingly (to me), Kitcher is going to quote W.K. Clifford in a few pages.
I think evidentialism is false (see again Plantinga’s Warranted Christian Belief.)
These are Kitcher’s true colors, which I reject foundationally. Therefore a lot of what Kitcher says built upon his physicalist evidentialism I find unpersuasive.

Kitcher quotes W.K. Clifford (thank you):
“It is wrong, always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything on the basis of insufficient evidence.”
But surely Clifford is “wrong” about this.
1.   One cannot evidentially arrive at the truth of Clifford’s statement.
2.   Warranted beliefs are non-evidential and not “arrived at.” (E.g., trust that our 5 senses give us accurate information about the external world.)

3.   No amount of physical evidence can establish something (like a belief) as “wrong.” Because “wrong” is not like “tree” or “particle.” 

Thursday, November 05, 2015

Cast Your Distractions on Him

Petal-less flowers in my backyard


Distraction. 

That, according to Richard Foster, is the primary spiritual problem of our day. "The Internet culture is only a surface issue. Our problem is something far more fundamental. This deeper, more basic issue can be summed up in one word: distraction." (Foster, Sanctuary of the Soul: Journey into Meditative Prayer, Kindle Locations 709-710)

The inability to focus. 

Difficulty in attending to just one thing. 

The tweeting soul. 

This has always been with us. Foster writes: "People were distracted long before it [the Internet] came along. Blaise Pascal observed, "The sole cause of man's unhappiness is that he does not know how to stay quietly in his room." (Ib., 710-711)

People's minds have always wandered. Arguably, today they wander more than ever. We live in a culture of distraction, a world whose economy is sustained by distractedness. To un-attend is the norm.  (See, e.g., Distracted: The Erosion of Attention and the Coming Dark Age.) 

This is changing the nature of interpersonal relationships for the worse. And, it affects the God-relationship. Single-mindedness, the ability to attend to one thing over a sustained period of time, is needed to succeed at anything (except multi-tasking). If one wanted to overcome this, how could it be done? Foster writes: 

"The first counsel I would give regarding a wandering mind is for us to be easy on ourselves. We did not develop a noisy heart overnight, and it will take time and patience for us to learn a single-hearted concentration." (Kindle Locations 716-717) He quotes from Dietrich Bonhoeffer:

"The first thing to remember is not to get impatient with yourself. Do not cramp yourself in despair at the wandering of your thoughts. Just sit down each day and wait patiently. If your thoughts keep running away, do not attempt to restrict them. It is no bother to let them run on to their destination; then, however, take up the place or the person to whom they have strayed into your prayers. In this way you will find yourself back at the text, and the minutes of such digressions will not be wasted and will not trouble you." (In Ib., Kindle Locations 717-721)

Learn about your own inner chaos. Identify it. My suggestion is: when your mind wanders, note where it wanders to. I have found that the mind always wanders to something like a burden. When you identify the burden, give it over to God. 1 Peter 5:7 says, "Cast your burdens on him, for he cares for you."

Discern if a particular distraction is from God. Foster writes: "If one particular matter seems to be repeatedly intruding into our meditation, we may want to ask of the Lord if the intrusion has something to teach us. That is, we befriend the intruder by making it the object of our meditation." (Kindle Locations 725-726)

Find ways "to crucify the spirit of distraction." (Kindle Location 727) Try fasting for periods of time from electronic media. Turn off your cell phone and survive without it. [How badly do you want single-mindedness?] 

Remember that people don't need you as much as you think they do. Constant connectedness with many people increases inner chaos. Foster writes: "I would suggest a fast from all our Internet gadgetry for one hour a day, one day a week, one week a year. See if that helps to calm the internal distraction." (Kindle Locations 728-729)

Find a place free from distractions, and pray. Dialogue with God. Listen, and speak. Learn the Relationship. Get away from the to-do list and be with God. Live life with your doing flowing from your being with God. 

Ahhh... to calm the inner distraction...  To learn simply being with Almighty God...  To receive and respond to God's earth-shattering presence...  To be in love with your Maker...  

Francois Fenelon wrote, "God does not cease speaking, but the noise of the creatures without, and of our passion within, deafens us, and stops our hearing. We must silence every creature, we must silence ourselves, to hear in the deep hush of the whole soul, the ineffable voice of the spouse. We must bend the ear, because it is a gentle and delicate voice, only heard by those who no longer hear anything else." Oh, may you, may I, hear nothing else." (In Ib., Kindle Locations 765-767)

Wednesday, November 04, 2015

Discern Before Deciding

IHM Motherhouse and Conference Center, Monroe

I'm now reading, devotionally, I (Still) Believe: Leading Bible Scholars Share Their Stories of Faith and Scholarship. I am really liking this book. The first two testimonies were written by Richard Bauckham and Walter Brueggeman.  To come are James Dunn, Gordon Fee, John Goldingay, Phyllis Trible, and several others.

This morning I'm reading Old Testament scholar Ellen F. Davis's story. Underlying her scholarship is a deep prayer life. She writes of being guided by God in "a regimen of meditative prayer and spiritual counsel...  I found myself simply trusting that process and following through in obedience. It was my first conscious experience of participating in such a process of shared, prayerful discernment." (44)

Engagement in this spiritual discipline convinced Davis that "our modern Western culture places excessive emphasis on the value of individual decision-making. What we think of as the normal steps by which decision-making proceeds — identifying goals, evaluating options, weighing pros and cons, then “deciding for oneself” — is not the only or the best way to make a sound choice. It may be better to submit in trust to the process of guided prayer, under the direction of someone who is deeply experienced in that work." (44-45)

Submission to the process, to the movements of God's Spirit as guided by God and not the self, has been central to all of Davis's life's direction. She writes:

"In short, on this and several other occasions I have been led in discernment to make a professional decision I had not expected to make. I trusted that it was the right choice, but in each case it remained unclear to me for some time afterwards why that was so. When the reason or reasons finally did become clear, it always involved factors I could not possibly have foreseen and considered in my own decision-making process." (45)

The first order of business in the life of a Jesus-follower is to place oneself in God's presence, as a discipline which turns into habitual way-of-being. That's where the God-process happens and discernment comes. 

Discern before deciding.

Tuesday, November 03, 2015

Pray to Be Free of the Double Imprisonment

Monroe County

Thomas Merton, in a moment of feeling rejected, wrote in his journal that there was "no point [in] trying to pretend that I am superior." (A Year With Thomas Merton: Daily Meditations On His Journals, May 11 entry, "On Being a Stranger")

Delusions of superiority and inferiority find their meaning in honor-shame hierarchies. Their demonic nature is that they measure human worth on a cultural scale of "least" to "greatest." When a person tacitly buys into this they see their own value as, relatively, "superior" and "inferior." In honor-shame thinking one is both superior and inferior at the same time unless you are the king (for a brief historical moment you have "risen to the top") or reside at the bottom of the hierarchy (a criminal, e.g.).

In the honor-shame hierarchy "value" is relative to position. Here is where the trouble comes, since striving to reposition oneself is a living hell. Merton concludes, correctly, that there is no point in doing this. I have done this, been there, experienced the hell of it, and agree that pride and shame are pointless.  

The good news is that the Real Jesus rejects honor-shame hierarchies. He refused offers of earthly kingship and died as a lowly expendable. Paul expands on this in saying that, in Christ, there is neither slave nor free, Jew nor Greek, male nor female. All Jesus-followers belong to Christ and are one in him, non-hierarchically.

Have you ever imagined yourself as mentally or physically superior to someone you don't like? Have you angrily defended yourself as being above another person? I once visited a man in prison who said to me, "I have an IQ of 160." I doubted this. Here was a man doubly imprisoned, in chains both physically and mentally. Yes, he is valuable; no, his value has nothing to do with intelligence.

Have you ever despaired because you are not as smart or as rich or as successful or as powerful as "everyone else?" Michelangelo did as he was painting the Sistine Chapel. He descended to depression and wrote, "I am not in a good place. I am no painter." Even gifted people can feel they don't measure up. Have you ever felt that you don't measure up? If so, to what, or to whom?

The Jesus-truth that frees us from the double imprisonment is that God doesn't measure us when it comes to love and acceptance. This is called grace. Extend grace to others and value them as God sees them; receive God's grace for your own self and experience his valuing of you.

Pray to believe that God's grace is for you, and thereby live free of all human hierarchies of value.

My Sermons Online

Trees, in my backyard

My Sunday morning sermons at Redeemer can be accessed here, along with power point presentations.

We are now preaching through the book of Revelation.

We'll take a break Nov. 22 when I will begin Six Messages On the Real Jesus.

Then, back to revelation in January 2016.

Speaking at the Holy Spirit Renewal Regional Conference - Sat., Nov. 7, Lansing, MI


I'll be speaking on "Blessings and Cursings: Breaking Free From Words Spoken Against You" - This coming Saturday night at Olivet baptist Church in Lansing, Michigan.

Location & Time:    Sundays at 10:30 am. 5455 W. Willoughby Rd. Lansing, MI 48911. 
(517) 887-0988.  Childcare provided.
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HUNGRY FOR A GOD ENCOUNTER?  A POWER ENCOUNTER? A SPIRITUAL BREAKTHROUGH? 

 You are invited to participate in a life-changing weekend conference drawing all of us into a deeper walk with the Lord.

November 7 & 8, 2015

Schedule
  •  “Leading your Church in Spiritual Renewal”
  •  A seminar for Pastors and Church Leaders – Saturday (11/7) 3 p.m.
  •  Worship Service led by Dr. John Piippo – Saturday at 6:30 p.m.
  •  Sunday Worship Service 10:30 a.m.
  •  Sunday Evening Worship and Healing Service at 6 p.m.             
            speakers: Rev. Ross Lieuallen and Dr. Clayton Ford

Learn more about walking in the power and presence of the Holy Spirit.
Be challenged by national speakers with a message for us.
 

Be prepared to receive God’s blessing and healing.
​Holy Spirit Renewal Ministries   www. hsrm.org

Olivet Baptist Church  5455 W. Willoughby Road, Lansing, MI 
contact: Rev. Ed Owens  887.0988